First hour: Part 2 of the conversation we began on our May 5 program with prolific, eclectic television director Ralph Senensky, whose many credits include The Waltons, The F.B.I., the original Star Trek and the original Twilight Zone. Topics include a discussion of “aesthetic distance,” a principle that Ralph first learned as a stage director at the Pasadena Playhouse. Also in this hour: Tony Figueroa and Donna Allen discuss the fallout from the controversial Pepsi ad with Kendall Jenner that Pepsi pulled almost immediately after it was launched. Plus: A salute to Grammy Award winner Al Jarreau. Second hour: Actor and author David Frankham (Return of the Fly, Master of the World, 101 Dalmations, Which One Was David?) visits Ed in the studio. David recently completed principal recording for a stop-motion animated puppet version of The House of The Seven Gables, while his audio commentary on Master of the World is now available as part of The Vincent Price Collection III Blu-ray release from Shout! Factory. Actor Jonathan Dixon co-hosts the hour.